Sunday, January 31, 2016

Alex Toth, Part 7

January 31, 2016
(This is part 7, the final installment of the saga of my brief relationship with Alex Toth, starting with me cold calling him in September 1992.
The page shown here was originally intended to appear as an episode of the “Challengers of the Unknown” ongoing series in Adventure Comics in issue #498, April 1983. Eventually they saw print in DC Comics Presents #84, in August 1985, somewhat reworked as a team-up between the Challengers and Superman.)

“DB: Your style is so graphic and so graphic and so bold and like you said, it’s simple but everything is there. The essence is there. And today you just don’t see that very often in comics.”
“AT: Well, you’ve got Mazzuchelli, you’ve got Mignola, you’ve got uh…”
“DB: Allred.”
“AT: Allred, who is very bright. This Brad Rader is quite good too. He sent me his book, “The Mark”, for a Dark Horse series …and I was very impressed. He had sent me one or two of those early “Batman” TV cartoon books that he did for DC Comics. I found it interesting, but I think somebody else was inking him on those books. It was very close to the cartoon style used on the series, which it was meant to be- but he had some nice touches in there. He’s really good on this Mark series and I just wrote him a postcard saying so. He’s one to watch.”
Interview with Alex Toth, conducted by Darrel Bowen,
“Anvil Anthology, #1, Vol. #1, 1995

Anvil Anthology #1 was published or co-published by Patrick Archibald, one of my fellow storyboard artists at Disney Television while I was staff storyboard artist on the  “Gargoyles” TV series in ‘94/ ‘ 95. Patrick called us into his office first thing in the morning to show off his box of Anvil Anthology, a slick paper high-quality magazine show casing the work of various animation artists doing comics. Pat had a story in the issue. It was pricey at $5.00, and I sort of resented his expectation that we all should buy a copy. I put him off, telling I’d come back after lunch and get my copy. I noticed the interview with Alex Toth in the middle of the magazine, but didn’t stop to read it. I was tired of Alex by this time and didn’t feel the need to read his ramblings.

So, an hour later, I was walking down the hall of the Television Academy Building in North Hollywood, California, that Disney Television occupied the 10th floor of. I turned a corner and saw one of my fellow storyboard artists, Butch Lukic, approaching. He stopped dead in his track, pointed at me, and calling out, “You! He talks about YOU!” Butch practically grabbed me by the arm and dragged me into Pat’s office, pulled out a copy of Anvil and opened it to the Toth interview, pointing out the paragraph quoted at the top of today’s blog.

Oh my God. Talk about the best possible compliment one could get. I was floating on a cloud. For days after, when people passed me in the halls of DTV they would bow and say solemnly, “Blessed By Toth”. (Well, it happened at least once, anyway).

So I bought a copy. And called Alex to thank him. I hadn’t spoken with him in a while. He answered with a harsh, growling, “Yeah?”
            “Uh,” I stammered hesitantly, “I read your interview in the first issue of “Anvil” and wanted to thank you…”
            “Goddam it, they were supposed to send me a copy to proof read and they didn’t! Send me a copy”
            I don’t remember if he gave me a chance to reply before he slammed the phone down, hanging up on me.
             I returned to Patrick’s office, brought at least one more copy, sent it to Alex with a sincere thank you letter, and didn’t talk to him for a year or so, when I called to give him the news of my first directing gig, on “Captain Simian and the Space Monkeys”. When I gave him the elevator pitch about the series he dismissively replied, “Why can’t you people come up with something original; why does it always have to be like something else?” Thoroughly annoyed, I stopped calling him for good, one temptation at a time.
           
            In summation, I can only say that my feelings Alex Toth are ambivalent. He’s one of my all-time favorite artist, and a roll model in both a positive and negative sense: On one hand, he was a perfectionist, always growing, changing, exploring new possibilities, increasing the graphic vocabulary of comics as few other artists have. On the other hand, he’s an object lesson being artistically crippled by perfectionism. Similarly, on one hand, he was a proud man, not suffering fools lightly. On the other, he was quick, too quick to take offense and too inclined to take slights personally.
            During the period in the early 90’s when I was interacting with Toth, I watched “The Fountainhead”, the movie version of Ayn Rand’s novel. In the scene where Howard Roark (played by Gary Cooper) visits his mentor’s death-bed, I was struck by the parallels with Alex Toth and my quasi-relationship to him. The mentor, a brilliant but ignored architect, gestured to the studio full of dust covered diagrams and scale models of unrealized projects and croaked, “Burn them! The world isn’t good enough for them!” The movie cuts to a scene of Gary Cooper dutifully burning the mentor’s life work.

In a subsequent exchange Alex revealed that he was an admirer of Ayn Rand, and that “”ATLAS SHRUGGED” READS LIKE ITS THIS DECADE’S NEWS! WE’RE LIVING IT! DAMN IT!” (The caps are his). All I can say is I’m glad Alex’s caretakers didn’t burn Alex’s archive.



Saturday, January 30, 2016

Alex Toth, Part 6


January 30, 2016
(This is part 6 of the saga of my brief relationship with Alex Toth, starting with me cold calling him in September 1992.
The page shown here was originally intended to appear as an episode of the “Challengers of the Unknown” ongoing series in Adventure Comics in issue #498, April 1983. Eventually they saw print in DC Comics Presents #84, in August 1985, somewhat reworked as a team-up between the Challengers and Superman.)

Things are somewhat anti-climactic from here. I would call Alex every couple of weeks. Sometimes it was like we were old best friends; other times it was “who the Hell are YOU.” Eventually I said something that alienated him (I think it was sticking up for Frank Miller and Bruce Timm), from that point on I was banished. I think I waited a couple years, tried again and we were friendly for a while until I, once again, transgressed.

I have decided to throw brevity to the wind and transcribe one of our exchanges.

From Alex Toth, dated 12-15-92. He is responding to my sending him a copy of my first published work, penciling ‘Batman Adventures’ #4 
“DEAR YOU
            “RCVD YR ‘BATMAN’-Thanks- and LIKED IT OVERALL-THO’ the COLORIST DID YOU NO FAVORS- WORST CHOICE POSSIBLE- for DULL, MUDDY COLORS, and HE HAS NO IDEA at ALL HOW TO DO EXPLOSION at ALL, USE IT to LIGHT the SURROUND, etc, WHERE the WHITES and BRIGHTS SHOULD be- NO THINKING in EVIDENCE- WHAT QUALIFIES HIM TO HIS TITLE, I wonder? The COVER LOGO’S NOT QUITE ‘ON’! WISH YOUR COVER’D ECHOED MORE of the TV SHOW’S DARK MYSERIOSO LOOK/FEEL! ‘BATMAN’S a MINOR PLAYER THERE- HE’S MUCH MORE DYNAMIC a FIGURE than ROBIN + THUGS UP FRONT! COULD’VE USED A LOT MORE BLACKS ON the FIGURES. AS PER the FIRE-LIT NIGHTSCENE’S PRIMARY DRAMATIC HIGH CONTRAST VALUES! DIG? BY ALL MEANS, SEND FUTURE COPIES! GRAZI!
            BY ALL MEANS, SEND FUTURE COPIEW! GRAZI! I’LL ENJOY YOUR PROGRESS, I’M SURE! PS- DO I SEE MY ‘BATMAN’ POSES IN SOME PANELS of HIM AT the CONTROLS? ECHOES REVERB’ HERE-   
            WELL- OKAY- WHATEVER1
            HOPE YOU INK YOUR OWN PENCILS/and COLOR!
            I’M SURE YOU’LL DO IT BEST-
            YOUR WORK HAS SOME JACK COLE IN IT, THAT’S GOOD! NICE BLENDING-IN OF SAME! The CONTE CRAYON/DRYBRUSHED EDGES OF BLACKS TO GRAYS WORKS FINE ON FIGURES/etc- DO MORE- AND DON’T LET DC ‘SCREEN’ THEM WHICH THEY’D DONE IN the PAST- DUMB!
            Thanks for INVITE TO YULETIDE FEST, BUT I’M PLAYING HUMBUG for WHICHEVER of MY 4 KIDS DEIGNS TO VISTI MY DUSTY MUSTY DIGS- IT’S NOT MY BEST TIME OF the YEAR, MOST TIMES AREN’T REALLY- NO SURPRISE, RIGHT? I’M JUST WORN-OUT KIDDO, to the BONE- Alex T”

My reply, dated December 21, 1992:
“Dear Mr. Toth,
            “Thank you for the postcard (sorry that this letter is coming to you as a Xerox, but I’m writing it in my journal and I want to keep it). I wanted to respond to some of your comments there in.
1)   I didn’t do the cover. If you look carefully along the left hand spine you’ll see the signature of Ty Templeton, who drew issues #1- #3.
2)   I agree that the colorist didn’t do me any favors. However, I don’t think the inker or letterer did me any favors either.  The letterer especially pisses me off. I lettered all the title lettering for the chapter headings and a lot of the SFX lettering when I did the pencils The letterer, when he inked my pencils of the typography, did a really hack job, putting less work and thought into it by far than I did. I find page 9, panel 2 especially infuriating. Having the SFX lettering run over Hill’s face was my idea, and he (the letterer) sort of followed my pencils, but he has the damn letter forms going over Hill’s eyes, so you can’t tell which direction he’s looking, which fucks with comprehension of the entire page. (By the way, I’m curious- does the workman on this page read as Mario to you?) Also, on page 10, panel 3, he flops Batman and Alfred’s word balloons so that Batman’s reaction dialogue comes before Alfred’s cueing dialogue. To me, this is brainless, stupid shit.
3)   I don’t care much for the inks either. I know, I could have done much worse- at least he wasn’t hacking- he was trying to plus my pencils. But a lot of his “plussing” I could do without. For instance, page 7, panel e’s shadow of “Diner” on the wall behind the TV was all his idea. The bat shadow in the bg of page 20, panel 4 was his add. In issue 5 he sticks in bat shadows every chance he gets. I fucking HATE bat shadows. I think they’re trite, which is why I didn’t put them in my pencils even when the scripts called for them. Basically the inker added detail in many places, which made busier an artjob that was too busy already. Sigh… Basically, what this does is harden my resolve to ink, letter and color my own stuff (write, too).
4)   I wasn’t consciously copying any of your posing, though I’ve spent so much time studying your work that it’s inevitable you’d show up somewhere.
5)   Thanks for comparing me to Jack Cole. He’s not an influence particularly, but I like his stuff. I’ve been compared to Joe Staton, too. Staton however, I don’t even like.
6)   I don’t like the conte shading on the figures. I think it adds to the over-all overworked, over busy feeling. Also, it doesn’t go with the style of the show. In the show, the pebbled shading effect is used on the backgrounds; the figures are clean lined. The inker of the comic does the reverse.
7)   Too bad you can’t make our Xmas eve party. I didn’t think you would. But as I always say, “If you don’t put your hook in the water, you’ll never catch fish.” (I thought that one up myself.)

            Basically, my criticism of my own work in my first published comic is: it feels over worked and over busy. I was working too hard and not getting enough back. It has an uptight, anal-retentive feel to it that is made worse by the inker’s timid, prissy stylings. However, a lot of the can be chalked up to first-issue-it is. I was pretty much over it by my third issue.
            I’m really excited by my own work. I feel like I have it within me to play in the fields of the lord, so to speak—to do work on par with the greats – Caniff, Miyazaki, Raymond, Eisner, Kurtzman, You, Herge´, Adams, Heath, Giraud. I see the seeds of greatness within myself and intend to nurture them. If I didn’t feel that way, I wouldn’t be wasting my time, working for a fraction of what I could be making in the animation biz.
            I know it’s unseemly to toot my own horn this way. One of these day’s it’ll come back to haunt me, I’m sure. Oh well. I’ve always had to learn things the hard way.”

Sincerely Yours,

Bradley C. Rader

Arrogant, wasn't I? Don't worry, life kicked my ass.


Friday, January 29, 2016

Alex Toth, Part 4

(This is part 4 of the saga of my brief relationship with Alex Toth, starting with me cold calling him in September 1992.
The page shown here was originally intended to appear as an episode of the “Challengers of the Unknown” ongoing series in Adventure Comics in issue #498, April 1983. Eventually they saw print in DC Comics Presents #84, in August 1985, somewhat reworked as a team-up between the Challengers and Superman.)

A few weeks later, I called Mr. Toth to ask if he’d had a chance to watch “Castle Cagliostro” (an anime feature by Hayao Miyazaki that was a touchstone for the group artists I ran with). He admitted that he had, and added that he was going to write Dan Riba a post card about it. There were many good things about the movie, but, in general, he thought it was too hyper, too fast without let up in the action and that the action was too jerky. Also, he had difficulty understanding the story since it was in Japanese.
“I thought Bruce Timm was going to write me a letter”, he accused. “I told Bruce about it, but he doesn’t answer to me. He’s the producer”. Toth couldn’t argue with that.
We shot the breeze for about an hour before I got to the point: I wanted to meet him, get him to look at my work and pronounce me “good”. Or, if “not good”, give me some pointers on improvement. “You sure know how to hurt a guy”, was his response. “Why is that hurtful? First, let me say that if things go no further than these two phone conversations, I’ll consider myself blessed.  But what about, if you don’t want to venture out, I come to your place”. He mumbled something about stacks of books covered with cobwebs and dust. “Sounds like my place”, I rejoined.

He asked me where I lived; I told him (I live in Elysian Valley, near the LA river) “The Dog’s end of LA”, he proclaimed. I disagreed, telling him I walk my dogs in the river everyday.


Finally he suggested we meet at one of his favorite restaurants, El Chiquito, across from the Warner Brothers main lot, and that I should invite Bruce Timm and Dan Riba to join us. I said I could do that but the problem area in the equation was him. He allowed this was so and suggested I call him a couple days before to make sure he was “available”. (To be continued)

Alex Toth, Part 5

January 29, 2016
(This is part 5 of the saga of my brief relationship with Alex Toth, starting with me cold calling him in September 1992.
The page shown here was originally intended to appear as an episode of the “Challengers of the Unknown” ongoing series in Adventure Comics in issue #498, April 1983. Eventually they saw print in DC Comics Presents #84, in August 1985, somewhat reworked as a team-up between the Challengers and Superman. The post-card is reproduced by gracious permission of Dan Riba).

 I called Bruce Timm(producer of the Batman Animated TV series for Warner Brothers) and Dan Riba (director on the same) about Alex Toth’s offer to meet us for lunch at one of his favorite restaurant’s, El Chiquito, across the street from the WB main lot.  The day and time was agreed upon. Unfortunately, I’m writing from memory, 24 years later, so I’m unclear on many of the detail (the previous 4 entries of this ongoing blog were transcribed from my daily journal of the period; I’m shocked and mystified to find no record of this event).
And he stood us up. We waited around for a half hour or so, eventually ordering lunch and shooting the shit for an hour or so in case Mr. Toth showed up late, but no such luck. All I remember is that I bought along photocopies of my pencils to the first half of Batman Adventures, #6, so the date was a couple months after 1992’s San Diego Comicbook Convention (I don’t think it had become Comic-Con International yet) with intention of showing them to Mr. T.  I showed them to Bruce and Dan while we waited. I vaguely recall that someone had brought along photocopies of John Romita Jr.s’ pencils to Star Brand. I opined that it was okay, but that I liked what I was doing better. JR JR had no squash and stretch, his posing lacked nuance and drama, etc.

Eventually I called Mr. Toth to follow up; he was suitable apologetic. But I learned my lesson about trying to schedule things with him.


I’m transcribing Alex’s postcard to Dan Riba because it may be hard to read as a jpeg.



“Dear Dan,
            Many thanks for surprise gift tape of “Cagliostro” none of which was I able to follow continuity of at all, of course, but did admire all the complex graphics, tricks, fx, color, design of very much- too fast action therein, as in most tv/theatrical feature work, with the too fast jump cuts, is nerve wrackingly high-paced, start to finish, unrelenting- which is the stuff of Japanese animation since the ’60-Bots’ or ‘Orbots’ or whatever of a decade ago. Its skip-framing look in its staccato action bothers me, denying eyes to focus on anything with jump cuts amplifying speed, but Japanese exaggerate as standard practice! I noted a few rotoscoped bits, stylized, and I enjoyed all too-few quiet, subtle, pauses great dramatic erect. Its overall tongue-in-cheek humor works to put over its’ outrageous action/feats.
            Brad said your ‘Batman’ team studied the above and other such features as inspiration for your own work- I see a similarity- but also your own ‘look’ prevails, with is fine, and much preferred, by this daily viewer-
            Good mysterioso touches and often lowkey live action-like voice acting and the subtleties of small but telling gestures, which I applaud- day to day. The show’s uneven, which is the norm in TV prod-n, but, mostly your output is commendable- except for walks/runs by characters other than ol’ Batman himself- who seems to be give special care (as well he should) and Brad cited a direct market video feature upcoming of ‘Batman’ and a spinoff ‘Catwoman’ series-Good news for all of you doodlers! Do your best! It’ll show! It has, so far! Looks like a lot of fun, too! They usually come back late in the run or at the end, as per-prior policies-
            Anyhoo-Thanks Again, Dan-


Alex Toth”

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